Lugano resistance drop re-visited

@Charlie

Closing the loop would do it too. i.e. all control and stimulation power harnessed from output to run reactor for beyond chemical possibility.

@Tom

This is the kind of Discussion that Bob Higgins and I had.

This and the wrong use of Emissivity means that for me, it all comes down to seeing statistically significant transmutations.

@Robert

All quantities RMS

For the same 3 resistive elements of equal resistance and 3 phase full waveform of line voltage V (we can revisit that later):

Y - resistor voltage is V, current is V/R, Power is V^2R

Delta -
resistor voltage is V|(1- (-0.5+0.866j))| = sqrt(3)V,
resistor current is sqrt(3)V/R,
power is I^2R = 3V^2R

The key thing is that delta increases element voltage by sqrt(3) over line voltage. compared with Y.

The Y equivalent resistance is reduced by the square of this (a factor of 3).

see wikipedia for details.

So for this to work we need:
Dummy run: Wye
Active run: Delta

Motivation? For limited range of V in from control box delta with give higher power than Y.

There are other darker possible motivations.

But motivation is all speculation.

What is fact is that the numbers given make sense for this change in setup, and given that the reactor must have been disconnected and reconnected such a change is possible.

The testers should have recorded this change, but we know that their work had issues in other areas - most notably a singular lack of controls of any kind (no independent temperature measurement, no dummy reactor at same power) and an error in how they calculated temperatures.

@ glowfish maybe phase angle, possibly inductance properties associated with the opposite coils and hot conductive tube, or having the three coils may act as a barrier for conductance of the hot tube some how saving the coils from destruction. hard to say really not enough info on it from rossi . but all I know is no one has tried it yet that I know of and I would personaly like to see it in action. just to call it a real replication of course. it would be nice to see a bare tube wraped with the three phase coils in a why configuration and recorded and then rewired for delta and recorded using exact same settings on power and length of time to compare something simple

@All

Nick Oseyko said

"I had tried heating mullite pipe with torch back in May. Becomes very conductive before melting. 1 cm gap was about 100 ohms."

Given that there was barely more than a few millimetres between phases in the Lugano reactor, and a large potential difference between them, this effect cannot be dismissed easily.

@tom Clark is there three power wires on each side of the reactor I can't remember? You would have to have each winding come out on both sides to change from y to d where as y would have all three wires connected at one side of reactor with each wire on the other side being a power leg and for d the coils would all have to be hooked in a series loop and power legs connected at each junction were a and b connect b And c connect and c to a connect. I don't remember that many wires hanging everywhere. I was thinking it was hooked up in a y configuration with the set of wires on the left and the wires on the right were thermocouples but they did use cameras for heat monitoring so they could have just fed them out the other side makeing it possible to change the configuration but what would be the reason for that would be a gigantic change In resistance as a to b would only travel through 1 coil in a d configuration and In a y configuration a to b would actually travel through two coils unless I am wrong , and trust me Ecco catches me doing that alot

PS - you won't find my comment on ECW since Frank Acland clearly considers it inflammatory and refuses to publish it, also he has permanently banned me from that site.

Which I don't mind, but it does make discussion there less informed than one would wish.