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@Ascoli65

I can perhaps answer question 2.

Ryan, Mathieu, Bob H etc. were informed of the results of the GS5.2 at the earliest opportunity, Mark and Alan saw it. In fact the data and much discussion was always public and live it was just that no one was paying attention.

We had already demonstrated repeatable detection of Geiger Counter count increases in 2013 in Celani wires in France. This was when re-charging the cells with fresh H2 and this was replicated within 24 hours by Jean-Paul Biberian. When we announced this finding - we were literally inundated with historical research by many bodies of the observation of photons in a range of energies - we however were only seeing counts.

GS 5.2 gave us an energy range for the kind of photon emitted and this happened to explain the hither-too unexplained anecdote from Francesco Celani's visit to Rossi's first public demonstration and the claims Rossi himself had made.

NO member of the MFMP knew the internal structure of Rossi's ottoman style ECat - however, our data implied that for 'no observable emissions outside the reactor' he would have to use 50mm of Lead - subsequently it was discovered that this was exactly what he used.

In addition the reaction is claimed by NASA to be stimulated by THz radiation which is sub millimetre IR. So the reasoned argument is this.

Reaction stimulated by THz releases high energy photons, these are thermalised in Lead to THz IR which stimulates primary reaction. The high energy photon source is unknown but may come from fractional hydrogen and/or mass change/binding energy conversion.

Since this is in line with what Rossi has claimed, it is offerred as an explanation. The 1 in 6 out is only a tuned embodiment - it could be 1 in n out where n is either larger or smaller than 6.

It is not that this is an 'official MFMP position' - it is that this is the best potential explanation that can be derived so far from our research (Celani & GS) since 2012 and the historical observations of others - including Rossi to date. It is not focussing on underlying mechanism - but observables.

I take ownership of making the inference and connecting the dots, as someone operating within the scientific method I will of course say that I could be wrong in whole or in part - but our data and that of others must point to something and this is one possible postulation.

I look forward to addressing reasoned criticism of the mechanism based on the data of others.

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Hi Ryan

I thought the pitch on the Kickstarter site was brilliant. It really should take off over there.

I made a donation as I like the idea and the cause too. I think this kind of thing can encourage and help communities a lot.

If I find someone in Europe who would suit this I will let you know but I guess you have your hand full with the US side for now.

All the best with this.

Stephen

@Stephen -The shipping oversees is quite a chunk of money. I hope if we can get them established here that I can then arrange to make them available in Europe, too. Know anyone that wants to set up a manufacturing and sales operation?

@webbie - I see the use of LENR to grow food as an essential step to being able to travel amongst the stars. Of course the improvements available right here int he meantime would be good too. It will take some practice, though, since the winter part of the cycle is important ecologically for most systems. It will be developing a new ecology, basically.

@ Ryan Hunt,

hi, glad to read you again on quantumheat, and my congratulations on your latest initiative. It confirms that you and the HUG team are concrete people who sincerely seek all the ways, even the simplest ones, to address the problems looming in our future. I hope that your initiative is successful, so that you can re-dedicate yourself to experimental verification of LENR devices. Your commendable effort to replicate the Celani cell has been very useful to highlight the real causes behind his controversial calorimetric claims. Your results convinced everyone, those who place their hopes in the reality of LENR, as well as those who deem it impossible. The HUG team conquered the trust of everybody.

Now, as you know, the MFMP is involved in replication attempts of the ecat, in the so-called dog-bone model. Recently, Bob Greenyer claimed to have discovered the physical mechanism justifying the behaviour of some tests held in Bologna in 2011 (1). In particular, he explained in a video (2) how it was possible in the test held October 6, 2011, to maintain for a few hours an ecat in the so-called SSM (self-sustained mode). Bob put this astonishing result (5h (SSM)) at the end of the formula that he, on behalf of MFMP, proposes as a viable solution for ending the carbon age.

But, the module tested on October 6 was the "ottoman" model of the ecat, also known as fat-cat, which weighed almost 100 kg. Many, including myself, believe that the (improper) SSM was simply due to this large mass, which would be capable of storing, during the initial period of electric heating, all the heat necessary to keep the water boiling for a few hours.

That module was one of the 52 modules placed inside the container of the 1 MW plant tested on the 28th of the same month. This last, in turn, was substantially equal to the 1 MW plant recently tested in USA (3). So, I think that would be very significant replicating the results of the October 6 test, which is also considered the most convincing ecat experiment by a direct witness as Mats Lewan (4).

That said, I would submit you a couple of questions:

1. Do you think that the HUG team would be able to build a facsimile of the fat-cat, like, for example, the one I described to Bob a few days ago (5)?

2. Do you think it would be appropriate and useful replicating the October 6 test, in order to better understand the real causes of the claimed SSM period, and provide Bob (and the MFMP followers) with more solid elements to assess the validity of his theory on the functioning of the ecat?

(1) quantumheat.org/.../...
(2) youtu.be/MtTeHU4vBmc
(3) www.journal-of-nuclear-physics .com/.../
(4) e-catworld.com/.../...
(5) quantumheat.org/.../...