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#313
11 years 11 months ago
Info about Rossi's catalyst and replication?
Greetings,
There have been some recent interviews with staff of Defkalion tech. According to the information, the possible catalyst used by Dr. Rossi might be Potassium, sodium, calcium, or magnesium. It could also be potash (potassium carbonate) or potassium hydrate.
K is naturally radioactive btw.
I understand that the team has different priorities but archive pictures from Dr. Focardi's TEDx talki in Bologna show the test setup and it looks rather primitive:
(look at the background pictures in his presentation).
Also, Rossi's patent allication goes into some detail on how to construct the reactor:
www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?IA=IT2008000532&DISPLAY=STATUS
and so is the Rossi- Focardi paper:
www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/files...si-Focardi_paper.pdf
Its a long shot but there is a chance that Rossi's setup is quite simple:
1. Mix a very fine powder of nickel metal + potassium or potassium carbonate or potassium hydrate (lol use the mortar like the ancient alchemists )
2. Put the mix in a "reactor" as described in the WTO patent app
3. Observe the results?
As an alternative, apply the potash to the present design of the reactor; see if coating of the wire or part of the wire in either potassium carbonate or potassium hydrate leads to interesting anomalies.
My theory that Dr. Rossi was able to get a good reaction as a result of a guess. It seems that he was getting the results FIRST without understanding on why he is getting them and that is why Prof. Focardi was hired as a consultant.
Again, the pictures from the Focardi's presentation show setup that is very primitive. A nicely equipped lab such us the HuntGroup should be able to reproduce such a setup in few hours time...
Last but not least, it seems that the reaction control depends on precise "pulses" of electricity or heat. One of the leaked pictures of the Defkalion test reactors shows them using something that looks like an automotive spark plug to deliver the pulses....
So maybe it might be possible to use part of an old automotive engine cylinder + the ignition coil, pressurize it, load the mix of the hydrogen + the mix of nickel + potash, and start bombarding the mix with the spark from the spark plug...
Seems rather primitive but maybe worth a shot?
Edit, I have found a weird site that has analyzed the defkalion reactor to a degree:
www.donbot.com/Enerbot/LANR/Defkalion/De...ntroToDefkalion.html
The spark plug is easily visible.
Edit2:
Supposed scheme of Rossi's reactor:
static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2012/3/1...-Slattery_origin.png
Edit3:
My guess is that if Rossi's reactor is really working and the catalyst is in some form of potassium, it will be really easy to get a detectable amount of excess heat. Now, controlling the reactor and movin to kw amount of heat and self sustain mode will require some expertise and maybe extra equipment from National Instruments, but the first stage - which is easily detectable excess power might be easy to achieve...
Edit4: Defkalion was able to very quickly copy Rossi's technology so it is not magic.
There have been some recent interviews with staff of Defkalion tech. According to the information, the possible catalyst used by Dr. Rossi might be Potassium, sodium, calcium, or magnesium. It could also be potash (potassium carbonate) or potassium hydrate.
K is naturally radioactive btw.
I understand that the team has different priorities but archive pictures from Dr. Focardi's TEDx talki in Bologna show the test setup and it looks rather primitive:
(look at the background pictures in his presentation).
Also, Rossi's patent allication goes into some detail on how to construct the reactor:
www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?IA=IT2008000532&DISPLAY=STATUS
and so is the Rossi- Focardi paper:
www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/files...si-Focardi_paper.pdf
Its a long shot but there is a chance that Rossi's setup is quite simple:
1. Mix a very fine powder of nickel metal + potassium or potassium carbonate or potassium hydrate (lol use the mortar like the ancient alchemists )
2. Put the mix in a "reactor" as described in the WTO patent app
3. Observe the results?
As an alternative, apply the potash to the present design of the reactor; see if coating of the wire or part of the wire in either potassium carbonate or potassium hydrate leads to interesting anomalies.
My theory that Dr. Rossi was able to get a good reaction as a result of a guess. It seems that he was getting the results FIRST without understanding on why he is getting them and that is why Prof. Focardi was hired as a consultant.
Again, the pictures from the Focardi's presentation show setup that is very primitive. A nicely equipped lab such us the HuntGroup should be able to reproduce such a setup in few hours time...
Last but not least, it seems that the reaction control depends on precise "pulses" of electricity or heat. One of the leaked pictures of the Defkalion test reactors shows them using something that looks like an automotive spark plug to deliver the pulses....
So maybe it might be possible to use part of an old automotive engine cylinder + the ignition coil, pressurize it, load the mix of the hydrogen + the mix of nickel + potash, and start bombarding the mix with the spark from the spark plug...
Seems rather primitive but maybe worth a shot?
Edit, I have found a weird site that has analyzed the defkalion reactor to a degree:
www.donbot.com/Enerbot/LANR/Defkalion/De...ntroToDefkalion.html
The spark plug is easily visible.
Edit2:
Supposed scheme of Rossi's reactor:
static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2012/3/1...-Slattery_origin.png
Edit3:
My guess is that if Rossi's reactor is really working and the catalyst is in some form of potassium, it will be really easy to get a detectable amount of excess heat. Now, controlling the reactor and movin to kw amount of heat and self sustain mode will require some expertise and maybe extra equipment from National Instruments, but the first stage - which is easily detectable excess power might be easy to achieve...
Edit4: Defkalion was able to very quickly copy Rossi's technology so it is not magic.
Last Edit: 11 years 11 months ago by adlep.
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#315
11 years 11 months ago
Info about Rossi's catalyst and replication?
I'm not so sure it was a lucky guess by Rossi, or a copy by defkalion.
Potash haver been discussed since long in LENr community. It seems linked to capacity to create hydrogen ions.
I think it cannot be patented, since public for long
Potash haver been discussed since long in LENr community. It seems linked to capacity to create hydrogen ions.
I think it cannot be patented, since public for long
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#316
11 years 11 months ago
Info about Rossi's catalyst and replication?
AlainCo wrote:
Alain,
In one of the interviews, Prof. Focardi actually states that when Rossi contacted him first he had no idea on why the reactions are taking place. I will try to find this video.
Also, if Defkalion was able to copy Rossi's formula so quickly, it might be a very easy process for the guys at MFMP, especially if we can get the community involved and keep it "open source"...
I'm not so sure it was a lucky guess by Rossi, or a copy by defkalion.
Potash haver been discussed since long in LENr community. It seems linked to capacity to create hydrogen ions.
I think it cannot be patented, since public for long
Potash haver been discussed since long in LENr community. It seems linked to capacity to create hydrogen ions.
I think it cannot be patented, since public for long
Alain,
In one of the interviews, Prof. Focardi actually states that when Rossi contacted him first he had no idea on why the reactions are taking place. I will try to find this video.
Also, if Defkalion was able to copy Rossi's formula so quickly, it might be a very easy process for the guys at MFMP, especially if we can get the community involved and keep it "open source"...
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4 years 11 months ago
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